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Kappa Tulen Junior Charmer
Posts : 421 Charmer Power : 1494 Join date : 2010-05-03 Age : 34 Location : Indonesia Badges :
| Subject: Official March 2012 Banlist Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:29 am | |
| Without further ado, I present you the newest banlist... That in my most honest opinion is ugly as f*ck. (Listed is the thing changed) Banned cards: Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Spore Glow-up Bulb Trap Dustshoot Limited cards: T.G. Striker The Agent of Mystery - Earth Semi-Limited cards: Marshmallon Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner Emergency Teleport Shien's Smoke Signal Level Limit Area B Torrential Tribute Ultimate Offering Reborn Tengu No Longer Restricted: Call of the Haunted 100% Confirmed... Source: http://shriek.twoday.net/stories/64977358/Now... Let the hate begin. | |
| | | Garaito Super Charmer
Posts : 1015 Charmer Power : 2613 Join date : 2009-09-23 Age : 32 Location : Padang, and somewhere in Tokyo, near a little river, with Aimizu Favorite Charmer : Badges :
Character sheet Name: Yamikaru HP: (400/400) MP: (150/150)
| Subject: Re: Official March 2012 Banlist Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:18 am | |
| 1st, dont understand why Spore is banned. why? GuB is better than spore because : anti mill is few (so far is dimfis feat macro) , good mill = turn table, and many more crazy things that happens thanks to this one. how about spore? anti remove is...ehmm maybe same as GuB's (Necrovalley feat IIW), wanna reborn? remove a plant 1st, but his level increased. 2nd, what's wrong with dustshoot ? game stabilizer, eh? and we need opp must have 4 cards to activate it. so does with trish 3rd, dont care with earth and striker. but still curious with earth limited 4th, yes! torrential at 2, SSS is back! time to make a beatdown samurai. and another that semi'd~ 5th, dunno...just trying to expand duelist in my area. i hate DN nowadays~ just an opinion from a newbie...CMIIW HAVE FUN | |
| | | Kappa Tulen Junior Charmer
Posts : 421 Charmer Power : 1494 Join date : 2010-05-03 Age : 34 Location : Indonesia Badges :
| Subject: Re: Official March 2012 Banlist Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:40 am | |
| - Garaito wrote:
- 1st, dont understand why Spore is banned. why? GuB is better than spore because : anti mill is few (so far is dimfis feat macro) , good mill = turn table, and many more crazy things that happens thanks to this one. how about spore? anti remove is...ehmm maybe same as GuB's (Necrovalley feat IIW), wanna reborn? remove a plant 1st, but his level increased.
2nd, what's wrong with dustshoot ? game stabilizer, eh? and we need opp must have 4 cards to activate it. so does with trish
3rd, dont care with earth and striker. but still curious with earth limited
4th, yes! torrential at 2, SSS is back! time to make a beatdown samurai. and another that semi'd~ 1. Because simply Synchrocentric and Plant engine is too consistent. It is already there long enough and plant have already win numerous time with that. Well, not that I like it, since they need to hit something more 'serious' like Inzektor or Wind-Up instead of plant that's already out-dated. 2. Dustshoot is plain evil. First turn dustshoot pretty much control over the entire game. 3. Did you miss all that "T.G. Agent" Hate? T.G. Agent is too consistent to be left just like that. Although hitting Trishula and T.G. Striker is actually more than enough to stop T.G. Agent, I guess the Pure Agent need to be hit'd too to prevent further abuse. 4. Good luck with that. | |
| | | Garaito Super Charmer
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Character sheet Name: Yamikaru HP: (400/400) MP: (150/150)
| Subject: Re: Official March 2012 Banlist Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:46 am | |
| - Kappa Tulen wrote:
- Garaito wrote:
- 1st, dont understand why Spore is banned. why? GuB is better than spore because : anti mill is few (so far is dimfis feat macro) , good mill = turn table, and many more crazy things that happens thanks to this one. how about spore? anti remove is...ehmm maybe same as GuB's (Necrovalley feat IIW), wanna reborn? remove a plant 1st, but his level increased.
2nd, what's wrong with dustshoot ? game stabilizer, eh? and we need opp must have 4 cards to activate it. so does with trish
3rd, dont care with earth and striker. but still curious with earth limited
4th, yes! torrential at 2, SSS is back! time to make a beatdown samurai. and another that semi'd~ 1. Because simply Synchrocentric and Plant engine is too consistent. It is already there long enough and plant have already win numerous time with that. Well, not that I like it, since they need to hit something more 'serious' like Inzektor or Wind-Up instead of plant that's already out-dated.
2. Dustshoot is plain evil. First turn dustshoot pretty much control over the entire game.
3. Did you miss all that "T.G. Agent" Hate? T.G. Agent is too consistent to be left just like that. Although hitting Trishula and T.G. Striker is actually more than enough to stop T.G. Agent, I guess the Pure Agent need to be hit'd too to prevent further abuse.
4. Good luck with that. yeah, but maybe konami just want to make us suffered by a little (" why dont use OCG? windzektor doesnt a problem here " said konmai). lol. JK. but, since windzektor doesnt a top-tier in OCG (judging by what i heard), maybe that what makes they doesnt hittedthxTG Agent? yeah, i forget that >.<
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| | | Joan's Guardian Junior Charmer
Posts : 136 Charmer Power : 1222 Join date : 2009-10-12 Age : 35
Character sheet Name: Joan HP: (300/300) MP: (700/700)
| Subject: Re: Official March 2012 Banlist Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:11 pm | |
| This list is so obvious Synchro hate. Aside that, it's actually a very nice list, because it pretty much wrecks the top OCG decks and the Plants which were a problem for a very long time. Trishula deserves a ban, because it can completely cripple the opponent with ease and being generic makes it pretty much a splashable Caius + D.D. Crow + Mind Crush-like with a huge body just by showing its face. This is especialy amazing late game. Glow-Up and Spore also needed a ban because they were +1 on their own that even had the possibility to create more plusses by Glow-Ups mill and Spore banishing effect. Reborn Tengu also need the hit because its like Malicious... except ALOT BETTER because of its level and its typing. Trap Dustshoot deserves the ban, because it basicly allows you to predict your opponents hand while crippling their hand in the process, which is a enormous crippling to your opponent, it greatly limits plays, especially with 3 MST and Heavy all over the place. It's annoying as hell and needed to go. T.G. Agents desperatly needed to get hit if it comes to the OCG, since the problem with the deck that it was consistant and could drop boss monsters so easily it was basicly that you drew a boss monster almost every turn. They were simply the best deck and discourages further innovation in tournament. I would have rather hit Venus because its pretty much the entire core of the deck, because it basicly spams monsters all over the place and fuels Hyperion and Kristya, but I guess Earth is also a nice hit and Striker was part of 1 of the most splashable engines in the Sept. 2011 format. Lumina and E-Tele are actually pretty cool. The decks aren't still that good, because they can't get up with the format and still suffer from the massive nerfs they received from the previous banlists, but as engines, they have a possibility to see some play. I really didn't want to see another Smoke Signal back because fuck Shi En. The list is clearly made specificly to promote Xyz, yet they put this back at 2, which promotes a deck that can easily drop Synchros with ease and only bothers with Roach or Utopia as their main Xyz. I'm actually liking Torrential at 2, because it forces both players to think twice before mindlessy pushing for game. It's also a very nice replacement for Dustshoot. CoTH should not be at 3, especially since Monster Reborn is still floating around at 1. Obvious the reason its back at 3 because nobody is using it at a tournament level, but its still generic revival that can be recycled with Brio and Zyphyros. I don't care about Marshmallon and Level Limit Area B The only problem with this list is that it doesn't hit the upcoming meta deck in the OCG and the meta decks in the TCG, mainly Inzektors and Win-Ups. But knowing Konami, they'll wreck it if a year has passed, so they can promote their new products and then continues to go into this cycle until the game is dead. | |
| | | Kirikaze Fuuma Mod - Kaze no Soldier
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| Subject: Re: Official March 2012 Banlist Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:15 pm | |
| - Joan's Guardian wrote:
- This list is so obvious Synchro hate.
Aside that, it's actually a very nice list, because it pretty much wrecks the top OCG decks and the Plants which were a problem for a very long time.
Trishula deserves a ban, because it can completely cripple the opponent with ease and being generic makes it pretty much a splashable Caius + D.D. Crow + Mind Crush-like with a huge body just by showing its face. This is especialy amazing late game. Glow-Up and Spore also needed a ban because they were +1 on their own that even had the possibility to create more plusses by Glow-Ups mill and Spore banishing effect. Reborn Tengu also need the hit because its like Malicious... except ALOT BETTER because of its level and its typing. Trap Dustshoot deserves the ban, because it basicly allows you to predict your opponents hand while crippling their hand in the process, which is a enormous crippling to your opponent, it greatly limits plays, especially with 3 MST and Heavy all over the place. It's annoying as hell and needed to go.
T.G. Agents desperatly needed to get hit if it comes to the OCG, since the problem with the deck that it was consistant and could drop boss monsters so easily it was basicly that you drew a boss monster almost every turn. They were simply the best deck and discourages further innovation in tournament. I would have rather hit Venus because its pretty much the entire core of the deck, because it basicly spams monsters all over the place and fuels Hyperion and Kristya, but I guess Earth is also a nice hit and Striker was part of 1 of the most splashable engines in the Sept. 2011 format.
Lumina and E-Tele are actually pretty cool. The decks aren't still that good, because they can't get up with the format and still suffer from the massive nerfs they received from the previous banlists, but as engines, they have a possibility to see some play.
I really didn't want to see another Smoke Signal back because fuck Shi En. The list is clearly made specificly to promote Xyz, yet they put this back at 2, which promotes a deck that can easily drop Synchros with ease and only bothers with Roach or Utopia as their main Xyz.
I'm actually liking Torrential at 2, because it forces both players to think twice before mindlessy pushing for game. It's also a very nice replacement for Dustshoot.
CoTH should not be at 3, especially since Monster Reborn is still floating around at 1. Obvious the reason its back at 3 because nobody is using it at a tournament level, but its still generic revival that can be recycled with Brio and Zyphyros.
I don't care about Marshmallon and Level Limit Area B
The only problem with this list is that it doesn't hit the upcoming meta deck in the OCG and the meta decks in the TCG, mainly Inzektors and Win-Ups. But knowing Konami, they'll wreck it if a year has passed, so they can promote their new products and then continues to go into this cycle until the game is dead. I don't really mind about Inzektor since they still gain more support from Konami and it's not a wise decision to hit them with this banlist. But Wind-Up has gained supports from at least 3 sets and it's time to at least weakened their infamous Hunter Loop. Sadly, I don't see it's coming. Probably because OCG players didn't use Hunter Loop very much. But I can took a deep breath. Finally wish come true to see Tengu in the banlist even though it's not OCG card. COTH at 3 is fine since it's a little too slow but not wise because it makes most of its clone (Limit Reverse, Amazoness Willpower) looks obsolete. The power creep has becoming too high that COTH can be at three. Trishula? It's simply broken. Not because of what he can do but the nature of what he do : Didn't target, escape priority in OCG, and basically cripples three most strategic area (Hand, Grave and Field). Personally, I hate Trishula though... Lumina and Tele at 2 shows that Konami thinks Chaos can make a comeback and obviously, they think Chaos is not broken anymore. Which is wrong. Smoke Signal at 2 when Shi En at one would be balanced But the fact Barkion and Beast are still around makes LSS still a little bit scary. | |
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